Comments on: JVC’s new camera is world’s first with QuickTime format support http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/ A few words about non-linear editing, filmmaking and more ... Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:48:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mr CHIDIEBERE KALU http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8239 Mr CHIDIEBERE KALU Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:56:22 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8239 am a nollwoood DOP, U guys are doing a good job, am a young that like lerning evey day, am a nollwoood DOP, U guys are doing a good job, am a young that like lerning evey day,

]]> By: Rob http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8117 Rob Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:54:53 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8117 If this camera will allow me to shoot video, then just drag and drop the media off of the card and right into my timeline, without a trans code or anything, then I like it. If this camera will allow me to shoot video, then just drag and drop the media off of the card and right into my timeline, without a trans code or anything, then I like it.

]]> By: Dylan Reeve http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8116 Dylan Reeve Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:46:38 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8116 Oh for god's sake, they've reinvented the wheel again! "Drawing from its experience in developing rack mount encoders used by major television stations, JVC developed a proprietary codec capable of providing highly efficient compression up to 35 megabits per second," So, it's an MPEG-2 Long-GOP codec delivering full raster 1920x1080 in 35Mb/s, so that'd be XDCAM EX then, oh, no, wait... It's a propietary JVC codec. This is JVC's HDV all over again!! Let's see, a quick tally off the top of my head: HDV (Sony) HDV (JVC) HDCAM HDCAM SR AVC INTRA AVCHD (Sony) AVCHD (Panasonic) DVCPRO HD DVCPRO HD (P2) XDCAM HD XDCAM HD422 XDCAM EX JVC HD MPEG2 It's bad enough that there's so many, now JVC is creating a format that seems to have the same basic specifications as XDCAM EX, but isn't. Oh for god’s sake, they’ve reinvented the wheel again!

“Drawing from its experience in developing rack mount encoders used by major television stations, JVC developed a proprietary codec capable of providing highly efficient compression up to 35 megabits per second,”

So, it’s an MPEG-2 Long-GOP codec delivering full raster 1920×1080 in 35Mb/s, so that’d be XDCAM EX then, oh, no, wait… It’s a propietary JVC codec. This is JVC’s HDV all over again!!

Let’s see, a quick tally off the top of my head:
HDV (Sony)
HDV (JVC)
HDCAM
HDCAM SR
AVC INTRA
AVCHD (Sony)
AVCHD (Panasonic)
DVCPRO HD
DVCPRO HD (P2)
XDCAM HD
XDCAM HD422
XDCAM EX
JVC HD MPEG2

It’s bad enough that there’s so many, now JVC is creating a format that seems to have the same basic specifications as XDCAM EX, but isn’t.

]]> By: matt http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8115 matt Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:37:44 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8115 1/4" CCDs for HD? Seriously? I thought it was 2009. 1/4″ CCDs for HD? Seriously? I thought it was 2009.

]]> By: conigs http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8114 conigs Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:05:33 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8114 After lookig at the English page you posted on twitter - http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL101845 - It looks like the whole "HDV" thing just means it's using Long GOP MPEG-2. After lookig at the English page you posted on twitter – http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL101845 – It looks like the whole “HDV” thing just means it’s using Long GOP MPEG-2.

]]> By: Rob http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8112 Rob Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:10 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8112 As a FCP user this definitely make it a move attractive camera. Does this only work because it's HDV, or could a DVC Pro HD camera do this some day as well? As a FCP user this definitely make it a move attractive camera. Does this only work because it’s HDV, or could a DVC Pro HD camera do this some day as well?

]]> By: editblog-admin http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8111 editblog-admin Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:30:03 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8111 Good question Jon. Must be something funky in the translation. Dylan .... that's a GREAT point about MXF in Avid. This exact thing has been available from P2 / Avid for a while. It's just too bad that NLEs couldn't standardize on a single format then all the camera vendors could give us compatible stuff! Of course they care less about editing than everything else. Good question Jon. Must be something funky in the translation.

Dylan …. that’s a GREAT point about MXF in Avid. This exact thing has been available from P2 / Avid for a while. It’s just too bad that NLEs couldn’t standardize on a single format then all the camera vendors could give us compatible stuff! Of course they care less about editing than everything else.

]]> By: Dylan Reeve http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8109 Dylan Reeve Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:14:50 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8109 "This is a really great idea to think that finally you can go from shoot to edit with absolutely no transcoding, converting or rewrapping. Just a file copy from card to media drive. The big question I have is what took these camera makers so long to do this!" Oh yeah... This is what P2 has been on Avid for years, and XD is reasonably close to that too. From an Avid perspective it's only the recent MP4 (XDCAM EX) and now QT formats that require extensive re-wrapping. “This is a really great idea to think that finally you can go from shoot to edit with absolutely no transcoding, converting or rewrapping. Just a file copy from card to media drive. The big question I have is what took these camera makers so long to do this!”

Oh yeah… This is what P2 has been on Avid for years, and XD is reasonably close to that too. From an Avid perspective it’s only the recent MP4 (XDCAM EX) and now QT formats that require extensive re-wrapping.

]]> By: Jon Chappell http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8108 Jon Chappell Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:51:34 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8108 "HDV 720p format is used in full-HD1920 mode" What does that mean? “HDV 720p format is used in full-HD1920 mode”

What does that mean?

]]> By: Dylan Reeve http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/2009/01/07/jvcs-new-camera-is-worlds-first-with-quicktime-format-support/comment-page-1/#comment-8107 Dylan Reeve Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:02:02 +0000 http://www.scottsimmons.tv/blog/?p=1701#comment-8107 Okay, so no re-wrapping required for FCP, but presumably still required for Avid editing. What happened to MXF? It looked so promising for a while, even if there was some disagreement on the implementation. Okay, so no re-wrapping required for FCP, but presumably still required for Avid editing. What happened to MXF? It looked so promising for a while, even if there was some disagreement on the implementation.

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